Monday, March 10, 2008

New Mormon Church Prophet

The new prophet of the Mormon church is Thomas S. Monson. He's the real picture of arrogance. He has more credibility than prophets Spencer W. Kimball or Gordon B. Hinckley. The Mormon owned Deseret News, May 3, 1980, showed them with other men and Mark Hofmann while affirming his documents as Joseph Smith’s signature with characters from the alleged golden plates. There was no special revelation in these men since it was forged. I’d like to challenge this Monson to debate our men inside the LDS conference center. They're all cowards at heart but if they have truth, why wouldn't a prophet be able to defend it.



The Mormon leadership has been revealing more and more about less and less until now they've come to know everything about nothing. As Resurrection Sunday approaches, I’d like to have an article ready on the Mormon view of the Atonement.


Did Jesus carry our sin on the cross or in the garden (LDS view)?


Are we saved through the cross or does something further have to happen in their temples?

Article by Charlie Carle

2 comments:

Tracy Hall Jr said...

"He's the real picture of arrogance."

Have you met Thomas S. Monson? What do you know about his life? What do you know about his heart?

Do you know anything of the quiet, private, life-long personal Christian ministry of Thomas S. Monson to the poor, the sick, the widows, the fatherless? -- This despite his heavy administrative responsibilities in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

So what if he was once fooled by a skilled forger? Was not the great prophet Joshua fooled by the inhabitants of Gibeon into breaking a solemn obligation to God? (Joshua 9)

The only rightful and supreme judge of all men commanded,

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." (Matthew 7:1-2)

Please leave all judgment to God.

I would be far more impressed learning from you what you value in my religion than what you despise in mine.

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Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, Tracy remains loyal to his religion but is either not informed or is not open to truth. As expected, he expresses the in-house view about Mormon prophets but their record of accuracy to reveal the future was a failure from the inception. The revelations of Joseph Smith in the Doctrine and Covenants remain a total embarrassement to the LDS. Most LDS like Tracy do not have the courage to criticize prophet Monson. Yet do most of them like him? Who can say? But listening to non-Mormons expressing their freedom to talk, nobody I ever heard is impressed with him at all. "Something weird," "something demonic," or "I can't stand to listen to him" - that's what I've been hearing.

For Joshua, Tracy, this is not even comparable. The weight is upon you to show where the title "prophet" in the Book that carries his name. Joshua was a great leader but the battles got commonplace. And in this case he and the Israelites neglected to pray and seek direction from the Lord. So you need to wonder about this. Is that the casual way a Mormon prophet and the First Presidency of the Mormon church handled what was considered one of the greatest documents to ever cross their desk? If the prophet, seer and revelator of what is supposed to be God's only true church on the earth today cannot revelate and they have no record of being successful revelators, what hope is there for the LDS?

Tracy offers:
The only rightful and supreme judge of all men commanded,

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." (Matthew 7:1-2)

Please leave all judgment to God.

I would be far more impressed learning from you what you value in my religion than what you despise in mine.
Tracy, you surely carry the LDS quad to the Sunday meetings, so you ought to know better. Joseph Smith fired the first shot as he had no tolerance. He began the bashing from the inception of your church to say, "they were all wrong . . . their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt" (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith - History 1:18-20).

Nevertheless, Tracy, it was nice of you to respond. Thank you! It matters very little really who has the warmth to enjoy a speaker. But whether he is a genuine prophet does matter as it matters to God and it matters to God's people. It should also matter to you. So if you would like to dialogue further on the record of the LDS prophets to prophesy, we are surely interested in you and would love to discuss it to help you however we can.

I sympathize with you, Tracy, in that you have not been taught to study God's Word. In quoting Jesus on judging a "brother" and his motivations, you need to get the full picture. So read on for context. How can anyone discern a false prophet if you never make any kind of judgment about him. You know a false prophet by his fruits, false prophesies or false revelations (LDS). In reading Matthew 7, we see that God has already made the judgment on this, so you and I just need to agree with God. If not, the alternative for you is to just hang in there for their false message and then to face the consequences of a destiny of outer darkness. Jesus continued:

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Do you see? The claim is to be a prophet. The appearance is like nicely dressed Christians, to look like sheep. Then as you see in the text below, the words are to even claim the Lord (The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints). But like a wolf will destroy a flock, false teachers can destroy your soul. Listen to Jesus:

Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.