Friday, March 30, 2007

Friday Funnies

It's of a big rooster!!!

John gets a call from his blonde girlfriend, Buffy.

"I've got a problem," says Buffy.

"What's the matter?" asks John.

"Well, I've bought this jigsaw puzzle, but it's too hard. None of the pieces fit
together and I can't find any edges."

"What's the picture of?" asks John.

"It's of a big Rooster," replies Buffy.

"All right," says John, "I'll come over and have a look."

So he goes over to Buffy's house and Buffy greets him saying,
"Thanks for coming over."

Buffy leads John into her kitchen and shows him the jigsaw
on the kitchen table.

John looks at the jigsaw and then turns to Buffy and says,
"For Pete's sake - put the Cornflakes back in the Box.

Have a great week-end.

Personal Note --
If you would remember to pray for Regena and I.
I am taking Regena to the Bellingham, Washington airport to fly to Texas.

Regena will be nine days in Texas visiting family and friends. I will have to
drive back to Prince George, on Saturday. Quick trip.

Thursday, March 29, 2007

From our Stewardship section of our bulletin.

One question and answer each week.

Isn't tithing just an old Jewish Custom?

ANSWER Tithing precedes the Hebrew race. The first brothers, Cain and Abel, brought offerings to God in
recognition of His ownership and their stewards. From the beginning of known history man recognized it as a duty to give a portion of his income to God and that portion was the tithe.

Is tithing taught in the New Testament?
ANSWER. It is not repealed in the New Testament, and there is no reason why it should have to be. But it is
taught in the New Testament, Paul gives tithing as a basis for the regular
Church finances in I Corinthians 9:13-14. He declares that the gospel
ministry of the church is to be supported as the Levites (Numbers 18:21);
that is, out of tithes.

What did Jesus teach about the tithe?
ANSWER. He paid it (Matthew 5:17). He sanctioned it (Matthew 23:23).
He has the right to receive it (Hebrews 7:4,5,8,).

How can I tithe when my husband (or wife) does not believe in it?
ANSWER. One is responsible for the use of that which is his
own. Husbands, or wives, can have a clear conscience on tithing that which
they individually have. Luke 16:2; Romans 14:12

How can I tithe when I find I have nothing left after my bills are paid?
ANSWER. one does not tithe from what he has left; he tithes
first. Proverbs 3:9

How can children or adults who have no income tithe?
ANSWER. Children who receive money from parents, and adults who come into possession of
money can give the Lord a tenth of all they receive. II Corinthians 8:12
I believe in tithing. How can I tithe when I am so deeply in debt?
ANSWER. God is your preferred creditor and you should pay this debt
first. It is not right to rob God of what is justly His in order to
satisfy another creditor. Malachi 3:7-9

We have just married and have barely enough to live on, how can we tithe?
ANSWER. How can you not afford to tithe? To neglect your greatest Partner
in life is to disregard your greatest Provider. Matthew 6:33 If you read
verse 31, you will find that the necessities of life, food, etc. are
promised by God.

How can I tithe when I feel my first obligation is to my family?
ANSWER. I Timothy 5:8 says, "But if any provide not for his own,
and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is
worse than an infidel." But the Bible also states in Matthew 10:30, "He
that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of me; and he that
loveth son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of me."

I began to tithe several times, but haven't kept it up, shall I try again?
ANSWER. By all means. Just because you fail to pray, you don't give up
praying. It is expected that you be faithful in tithing as well as in
other ways of Christian living. I Corinthians 4:2

I cannot tithe now, but if God blesses me in a material way, don't you

think it is all right for me to promise to tithe?

ANSWER. If you are not tithing you "little" now you will not tithe
you "much" later. Luke 16:10

Do you think God will increase my material my material blessings if I tithe?
ANSWER. God does make a promise in Malachi 3:10 about blessings. But the
kind, whether material or spiritual, is in the hands of God to
give as He sees best. You may be sure God keeps His promises.

Can I count as a part of my tithe the money I give to good causes outside the church?
ANSWER. In I Corinthians 16:2, you will note it says,"...lay
by in store..." Malachi 3:10 emphasizes bringing all the tithes into the
storehouse. This means nothing else, but the bringing of a tenth of ones
net income regularly to the house of God.

Should I tithe if I don't like the way the church handles it?
ANSWER. Yes, because you are to tithe unto the Lord, and not unto the church.

I wish to tithe, but just when should I?
ANSWER. I Corinthians 16:2 sets the time as"...upon the first day of the week."
Tithing thus becomes a part of your regular worship, when you come to the house
of God every Sunday; it is worship, like prayer and praise are worship.

Do you think the practice of tithing will make me happy?
ANSWER. Yes, for obedience to Bible teaching always brings happiness.
How can one be happy, if he has to live with a condemned conscience?
John 13:17 and Matthew 25:23

Does tithing have anything to do with my spiritual life?

ANSWER. It certainly does. Read the parable of the unjust steward.
Luke 16:1-13. Note especially verses 11 and 12.
Will tithing give me a deeper interest in the Lord's work and cause?
ANSWER. A personal investment in anything brings a personal
interest in that thing. Matthew 6:21

How shall I figure my tithe?

ANSWER. If you have a salary, give a tenth - not after the taxes
are taken out - but before. If you are a business,
then give a tenth of your income. If you have no regular income, then give
a tenth of all that passes through your hands as your very own.

How can tithing be made easy for me?
ANSWER. Tithing will be made easy for any Christian who will
follow the instructions given in II Corinthians 8:5.
"They...first gave their ownselves to the Lord."

May God help us all to grow in the grace of giving.

Bro. Jeff

Wednesday, March 28, 2007

Roll up the rim to win!!!

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Dedicated to saving lives and protecting pro
Donuts = Safety in the Great White North!

This month I have had over twenty(20) Tim Horton's large coffees. Every time I roll up the rim it says -

"Please Pray Again".


Monday, March 26, 2007

Laughing Charismatics ... pt. 3

Continued from last Monday March 19, 07

With real concern for The Third Wave,

Word-of-Faith, Signs and Wonders,



What's going on in there?


Many of the nationally-applauded, crusade-speaking, book-writing, TBN-appearing heroes of the Charismatic Movement preach or cooperate with a false gospel. They are busily advancing serious doctrinal defections from the faith.

David Cloud, the editor of O TIMOTHY attended The North American Congress on the Holy Spirit & World Evangelism with press credentials. About 40 denominations from 50 nations and roughly 200 speakers joined forces in Indianapolis for the 1990 conference. Participating were Jack Hayford, John Wimber, C. Peter Wagner, Karl Strader, James Robinson, Bob Weiner, Charles Kraft, Paul Cain, Larry Lea, Charles and Francis Hunter, and Charismatic Roman Catholics.

Larry Lea babbled, "Bubbly-ida bubblyida hallelujah bubblyida shallabubbly shallabubblyida kolabub-blyid gloooooory hallelujah bubblyida." No dictionary in the world will back up his LYING "tongue"! A nun gave a message and also spoke with a nursery babbling "tongue." Obvious sin (1 Cor. 14:34)!

The lessons taught included such staggering heresies as:

-- baptismal regeneration, (one who is "baptized regardless of age is 'born again'!")

-- the gospel is thought to be "Jesus Christ is Lord!" (1 Cor. 15:1-4).

-- knowing "Mary" personally as we do Christ!

-- a Litany to Mary (as the "Refuge of sinners...conceived without original sin,")!

-- transubstantiation for the Lord’s Supper!

-- praise to God for purgatory!

-- Mary is important part of evangelism!

The unity statement read, "We will accept one another as brothers and sisters in our one Lord Jesus Christ...Among our churches, denominations, groups and ministries, there may have been times of tension, opposition and conflict. We wish to put these times behind us, by the grace of God. In view of the call we all have from the Lord to enter into this relationship for common work, we want to express our mutual personal respect and our respect for one another's ministries. We will speak well of one another and support one another whenever possible."45

Oh the sorrow of a false hope when poor religious people stand before the Great White Throne of God! What pitiful leaders who band together and rob them of a sense of need! How could an honest evangelical sign any such statement? The Gospel is one of the true essentials of the historic Christian faith! These Charismatic preachers compromised with the doctrines of devils (1 Tim. 4:1-3)! World evangelism by the year 2,000? How are they doing? A false gospel leads a lost and dying generation straight to hell!

What man on the earth personifies real Roman Catholicism? The pope is the leader! He "bears such titles as 'His Holiness,' 'The Vicar of Christ,' 'Holy Father,' and other names which can only be claimed by the Almighty Triune God Himself. Pope John Paul II brought together leaders from most of the world's heathen religions in Assisi and had them pray with him for peace in the world -- praying to the god of fire, to the god of the big thumb, to the god of Allah, to the gods Shiva, Ram and the other pantheon of Hindu gods, to the gods of the rivers and sky and trees! John Paul II is so infatuated with the false Mary of Catholicism that he visits the Mary shrines in each country he visits, and embroidered on his garments are the words in Latin which mean 'Totally yours, Mary.' John Paul II, in speaking to the World Council of Church leaders last year, said that 'we have been incorporated into Christ through our baptism and thus we are already one in baptism'"46 What an admission! "One" with the apostate World Council of Churches!

Coach Bill McCartney attends a Vineyard Church. He and his pastor are deeply involved with the Promise Keepers. Some true spiritually hungry men wanting to do right attend to seek encouragement. But is it good? The Seven Promises of a Promise Keeper quotes Jack Hayford saying, "Redeeming worship centers on the Lord's table. Whether your tradition celebrated as communion, Eucharist, the Mass, or the Lord's supper, we are all called to this centerpiece of Christian worship." Hayford is an interesting orator. His chameleon approach is clever, but unacceptable to God! The center for Christian worship cannot include re-crucifying our Lord or transubstantiation. This unity embraces what is disgusting to God! Jack Hayford is nurturing apostasy and spreading that from thousands of Promise Keeper men into the churches! We are not all one and the same as he infers! This kind of ecumenical unity-at-any-cost plays right into the hands of the antichrist!

The March for Jesus, 1995, was promoted under the banner, "Together for the Gospel." Special speakers preached beforehand that the march is a signs-and-wonders kind of warfare. The promotional endorsement page pushed for unity, quoting ten leaders including John Wimber, C. Peter Wagner, and Jack Hayford. How could godly Christians even consider endorsing this kind of togetherness? God's commands are so strong about both defective doctrine and false prophets! When is it right to identify with another gospel (1 Cor. 11:4)? Is it time to march with their team or is it still right to walk with God? The problem is so clear! "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" (Amos 3:3).

The Lord often rebuked religious majorities. Some say, "How can it hurt? I don't march for Wimber; I march for Jesus!" The sincere zeal to take a visible stand for Christ is a true and honorable motive. Christian friend, please do not react emotionally or be offended. The issue is are you willing to examine what God says about this kind of unity? Real champions of the faith do not follow crowds! God's man, Elijah, stood apart from the false prophets. Where would you draw the line on linking arms "across denominational barriers"? God rebukes the toleration with apostasy in any form!

You may say, "Oh, but I like these warm people! I like the Pope! I like Jack Hayford!" Do you love Jesus is the real point? Jesus firmly stated, "If a man love me, he will keep my words" (John 14:23). Will you follow the TRUTH?

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of TRUTH, is come, he will guide you into all TRUTH: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me" (John 16:13-14a). A Holy Spirit centered movement is not of God. Unity outside of the "the Word" and "the TRUTH" is not of God! "Such doctrinal confusion has nothing to do with Christ's prayer in John 17. Seven times in that prayer the Lord Jesus referred to 'the word' and 'the truth.'"47 The prayer of Jesus will be answered when the redeemed of God gather from every nation on the earth (Rev. 7:9). You can be sure, the true Holy Spirit of world evangelism is the Spirit of "TRUTH" (John 14:17; 15:26; 17:6).


How important is "Thus saith the Lord" to you? Will you follow a false teacher or God? We are to expose the false teachers, not join them.

"Doctrine" safeguards the flock. And "tears" mark the seriousness of defective doctrine. The devil wants to get false teachers into churches (Acts 20:28-32; 2 Tim. 3:16).

Unity that lacks doctrinal purity is not of God. "Mark" and "avoid" those who cause divisions and offenses contrary to true "doctrine." They may sound good, but they serve their own belly (Rom. 16:17-19).

We are to separate from immoral Christians (1 Cor. 5:9-13).

We must not unify with unbelievers (2 Cor. 6:14-7:1).

Some believers at Galatia joined spiritual renegades. Adding, subtracting, complicating, and corrupting the gospel is fearfully wicked. Perverters face condemnation (Gal. 1:6-9)! Yes, God means exactly what He said!

We must separate from the program of the unsaved. Expose them and oppose them! This means show them to be guilty (Eph. 5:10-13).

We are to separate from fellow Christians whose behavior is contrary to TRUE doctrine. We are to censure them (2 Thes. 3:6-15)!

False "doctrine" is divisive. "Withdraw" and "flee!" The divisive ones are the false teachers, not the separatists. False teachers may sound exciting and eloquent; but they are conceited and ignorant according to God. We are not asked to make this judgment about their character; God already has! Their teaching results in strife. Such teachers often cut down, intimidate, and judge. And they gain wealth from religion (1 Tim. 6:3-5, 11).

Like Hymenaeus and Philetus, the babblers destroy people's faith. "Depart" (2 Tim. 2:16-19)!

In the last days, the "corrupt" and "reprobate," like Jannes and Jambres, appear godly while they resist TRUE "doctrine" (2 Tim. 3:5-10).

Those with "sound doctrine" will want to deal with "deceivers," stop their mouths and follow God's directive to "Rebuke them sharply!" Paul instructs us not to be timid (Titus 1:9-13).

"Reject" divisive Christians who foster ideas contrary to Scripture. "Heretick" comes from the word schism. Our divisions come as error is introduced. Inclusivism allows heretics to win control of the group, then to force cooperation toward apostasy. In the end accepted heresy excludes the biblical position and whole groups of churches fall into condemnation (Titus 3:10-11).

Those who leave the LIE, turning to the TRUTH, may discover old friends who have been preaching that we should love all the world, turn to persecute them (1 Pet. 4:4).

"Love" does not overlook bad doctrine! Betrayers pose as biblical teachers. No base of operations or encouragement is permitted to be given to them (2 John 6-11).

"Contend" or fight for "the faith," our body of TRUTH (Jude 3)!

Any erring church indifferent to integrity and holiness, needs to remember that Jesus is prepared to do battle against it (Rev. 2:14-17).

Believers are responsible to "come out" from apostasy (Rev. 18:4)!48

Should our so-called "great work for God" be to "unify the churches" or "usher in the Kingdom?" No! That is just human reasoning. No nation ever impacted the world like America with all of the denominational diversity. The countries that honor the unified religions are ever prone to fall into apostasy!


The logic that we should all fellowship together since we will in Heaven is gravely dangerous. The "do-gooder" unity-seekers redefine and reduce the scriptures until little of substance is left. Godly New Testament believers resisted all pressure to patronize false teachers, seek association, accept their sponsorship, the increase of their numbers, sending them converts, adding to their prestige, following them around, inviting them to open meetings in prayer, or obliterating our all important God-given distinctions! When has anyone involved with the great ecumenical conferences, crusades, or marches rebuked false teachers (Titus 1:13)?

Be faithful! Too many "follow Jesus" for the sensational; but when it comes to His unpopular teachings, they are not supportive (John 6:60)! As Bob Ketchum once said, Find out where Jesus Christ stands on any issue; then go there and stand with Him!


Non-Charismatics are not strangers to a sovereign God who performs miracles. For years Christians stood back as not impressed with what is passed off as tongues and any other sign-gifts for this period of the Church. Too many Charismatics totally disregard the clear instructions for the function of biblical gifts!

Charismatic friend, clearly no church, family, or Christian will function with perfection on this side of Heaven. Thankfully, you can still find churches that are very intent on glorifying God by obedience to His written Word. They are often small, but faithful and firm. Is God's concern first for our purity or size? It is for purity (Rev. 2-3)! Size does not assure God's approval. The danger for dishonor is greater with greater size (2 Tim. 2:20).

You may have been saved in a Charismatic Church or been a member for years, and you found help. I do not write to dishearten you. I write with love and concern. "Open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful" (Pro. 27:5-6).

The charismatic role-model, the Corinthian Church, was guilty of tolerating quarrelsomeness, carnality, immorality, improper lawsuits, the violation of Christian liberty, insubordination of women, abuse of the Lord's Supper, indecency, pride, divisiveness, ignorance of spirituality, confusion about spiritual gifts, and disorder.

Pentecostalism started through a group with very serious doctrinal perversions in 1901.49 Pentecostalism gave birth to the Charismatic Movement in the 1960's. Then the grand-children are the Signs and Wonders50 and the Word-Faith Movements of today. The Oneness Pentecostal cult came from a Pentecostal revelation. The Pentecostal and Charismatic movements are young but very large. Twisted and extreme theology is where the most radical growth appears to be taking place.

The Charismatic movement is in trouble when the ones held in such high esteem leave TRUTH. It follows then that someone is a deceiver and someone is being deceived. As demonstrated, this movement is an easy prey for Satanic LIES. Why shouldn't Christians ask, "What could possibly be next?" Beyond all of the religious excitement is an alarming evidence of theological poison!

Can we rationalize that it is acceptable to remain in a church, as the Roman Catholic Church, because some Protestant churches turned from the TRUTH? No! We know the Mormon god has problems with changing his mind! He is false. The Bible God is very clear and He has not changed His mind; you get out of every church that abandons the TRUTH! "The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever" (Isaiah 40:8).

I urge you to prayerfully read a book that explains biblical doctrine. “The Charismatics,” by John MacArthur is very clear. Search the Scriptures, and think through your whole theological background. I pray God will help you find the way.

In a day when the Church and the New Age are steadily merging into one force, beware! All of us need to recognize the danger of drift. Many churches lost their moorings! Any kind of church that has left TRUTH is to be avoided. Discouraged victims of shallow Christianity often leave churches to join the cults! Let us pause and ask, "What kind of a conclusion awaits at the end of life's journey?" Would you hear Jesus say, "Well done!" or "Well, you're done"?

"The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity" (2 Timothy 2:19).


1. Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity in Crisis, (Eugene: Harvest House, 1993), p. 112).

2. Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 32.

3. G. Richard Fisher, A Look at Spiritual Pandemonium, Personal Freedom Outreach Journal, Oct.-Dec. 1994, p. 16.

4. Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 125.

5. Fisher, ibid., p. 15,16.

6. Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 351.

7. Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 110.

8. Fisher, ibid., p. 13.

9. Albert James Dager, "Rodney Howard-Browne and the Toronto Blessing," (Media Spotlight, 1995), pp. 13,15.

10. T. Tillin, "Is It Revival?" Banner Ministries, (Summer 1994).

11. David W. Cloud, "Charismatic Confusion in Indianapolis," O TIMOTHY, Special Issue, p. 30.

12. Watchtower, March 15, 1972, p.189-190.

13. Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 119.

14. Fisher, ibid., p. 14.

15. Cloud, ibid., p. 31,34-35.

16. Tillin, ibid.

17. Hanegraaff, ibid., pp. 123, 173.

18. M.H. Reynolds, "False Prophets . . . Pseudo Apostles, & A New Gospel," Fundamental Evangelistic Association, Vol. XII, Issue 1.

19. Fisher, ibid., p. 15.

20. Reynolds, ibid.

21. Reynolds, ibid.

22. Reynolds, ibid.

23. Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 237.

24. Cloud, ibid., p. 22.

25. David W. Cloud, "Charismatic Leader Dies After Being Healed," O TIMOTHY, (1992), pp. 1-8.

26. Cloud, Special Issue, pp. 46-48.

27. Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 30.

28. Fisher, ibid., 12,13.

29. Dager, ibid., p. 10.

30. Dager, ibid. p. 2.

31. Cloud, Special Issue, p. 38.

32. Dager, ibid. p. 4,5.

33. Dager, ibid. p. 3.

34. T. Tillian, ibid.

35. Fisher, ibid., p. 14.

36. Dager, ibid. p. 5.

37. Dager, ibid., p. 12.

38. Tricia Tillin, "The Toronto Phenomenon: Is it of God? How Can Christians Decide?" Discernment, (July-Sep. 1994), p. 4.

39. David W. Cloud, "Happy Hunters Ministering Holy Laughter, O TIMOTHY, 1994, p. 3.

40. Joseph R. McAuliffe, "Dominion Work," Chalcedon Report, Dec. 1994, p. 15.

41. Tricia Tillin, Discernment, p. 1.

42. Dager, ibid., p. 1.

43. Tillin, Mainstream; Dager, p. 16.

44. Tillin, Discernment, p. 2; Tillin, Mainstream.

45. Cloud, Special Issue, p. 20.

46. Cloud, Special Issue, p. 10.

47. Cloud, Special Issue, p. 8.

48. Pastor Robert Fuller, "Separation, the Ignored Precept," Fremont, CA.

49. Cloud, Special Issue, p. 24-25.

50. Reynolds, ibid.

Charlie Carle

Monday, March 19, 2007

Laughing Charismatics ... pt. 2

Continued from last Monday March 12, 07

With real concern for The Third Wave,

Word-of-Faith, Signs and Wonders,



What's going on in there?


Is the "Holy" Laughter Movement Christianity? Should we call it Satananity? Is it really Sanity at all?

The 700 Club and TBN crowds are hungry for signs and wonders, gratifying experiences, and goose-bump feelings. They are wide open to the demonic logic of the satanic counterfeits. The devils are laughing over the whole sham of these public spectacles in the name of Jesus Christ! Entertainment, emotionalism, and excitement still fill a church; but as in Hosea's day, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee... seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children" (Hosea 4:6).


People have a choice whether to blindly follow a popular voice in the religious world or to "Study to shew thyself approved unto God" (2 Tim. 2:15)! Joy (chara) is not interchangeable with laughter (galeo). Joy is an inner delight with God for all He has done and is doing. Joy comes from believing God's Word (Rom. 15:13; John 15:11). Joy remains during our trials after laughter is gone (2 Cor. 8:2; 1 Thes. 1:6; Jam. 1:2). Correctly interpreted, Proverbs 17:22 emphasizes the rejoicing heart contrasted to a broken spirit.

There is no biblical gift for a spirit of laughter. Rodney Howard-Browne repeats, "Fill -- let it bubble out your belly -- Ho-ho, He-he -- Fill -- Ho-ho-ho, Ho-ha-ha." His spiritual expressions and methodology are more at home with the occult than in Christianity.28 Never is there the slightest hint in Scripture that we are to worship God from the belly. "Living waters," in John 7:38, has nothing to do with laughter! The "living waters" symbolize the Holy Spirit who dwells in the heart or the innermost part of a Christian.

Rodney Howard-Browne's meetings are not Spirit-filled laughter or joy, but hysteria and frenzy which are clearly condemned by God! This bunch is responsible as millions view the chaos and disorder as a "Christian" madness (1 Cor. 14:23). Rodney Howard-Browne likes to call himself "The Holy Ghost Bartender" who dispenses "new wine"29 In Ephesians 5:18, the filling of the Holy Spirit will manifest Himself in honoring God musically, melody in hearts, thankfulness, fear, and good marriages. See the context! This verse will never justify "laughing in the spirit."


Every Christian ought to view this "falling under the power" with grave concern! Born-again believers are not safe from satanic deceptions and experiences while fulfilling conditions for demonic activity. The closest biblical counterparts of those who fall backwards, called "slain in the spirit" today, include those who are the sinning, the unbelieving, the demonized, and God's enemies! A demon-possessed son fell into the fire and the water (Mat. 17:15). Judas and his band fell backwards when Jesus identified Himself as the great "I am" (John 18:6). Saul of Tarsus and company all fell to the earth before Jesus' glory (Acts 26:13,14). The priest and the erring prophet of wine and vomit fell backwards in Isaiah 28:13. Are they different from the new wine and the "vomiting-in-the-spirit" and the "slain-in-the-spirit" at a Rodney Howard-Browne meeting?

Worship is always to be biblical, orderly and reverent in manner. God's Word underscores a true spiritual response to God's power. The godly, in reverential awe, adoration and worship, fall forward in a prostrate position. There is no trace of hysterical laughter or convulsions (Gen. 17:1-3; Lev. 9:24; Joshua 5:13-15; Ez. 1:28; 43:1-5; 44:4; Mat. 17:5-6; 28:9-10; Rev. 1:17; 7:11; 11:16-17).

The phenomena is clearly explained in O TIMOTHY Magazine, Bible Baptist Church, 1219 N. Harns Road, Oak Harbor, WA 98277, Volume 11, Issue 9-10, 1994.


The spirit of antichrist will appear to be Christ. As the serpent beguiled Eve, believers are seduced by "another spirit" (2 Cor. 11:3,4).

The "Holy" Laughter movement, like the Mormon movement, developed through a boy with an experience from a god. Rodney Howard-Browne says he prayed, "Either You come down here and touch me, or I will come up there and touch You."30 He will meet God one day all right! But it will be on his face and bended knees (Isaiah 6; Phil. 2:10)!

You can't trust demons. John Wimber gets doctrine from demons! He says some demons have bodies etc. because the demons told him.31 Wimber admittedly does not know if the encounters taking place in the Vineyard movement are from God or the devil. In fact, he says "there's nothing in Scripture that supports these kinds of phenomena." Surely you would expect the head of the Vineyard Christian Fellowship that popularized this movement to go to the Word and test the spirits whether they are of God (1 John 4:1)! No, Wimber says, "So I feel no obligation to try to explain it."32

Howard-Browne's proof that this is the move of God is that when he leaves it doesn't stop.33 People, think! The blasphemous re-crucifixion of Christ in the Mass does not stop (Heb. 9:28; 10:10)! Rock music, the occult, or Satan's effort to destroy this generation does not stop! The aberrations in the Church at Corinth did not stop because Paul left; they stopped because the Apostle confronted them with the book of 1 Corinthians. Then by the time he wrote 2 Corinthians, the carnal extravagance stopped.

A study of demonology reveals that demons interact with the mind, the emotions and the flesh. God deals with us primarily in the spirit. A 1994 article of Charisma quotes Rodney Howard-Browne as saying, "One night I was preaching on hell, and laughter just hit the whole place. The more I told people what hell was like, the more they laughed." Friends, the Great White Throne judgment and the horrors of hell are no laughing matter! The works of the flesh and Satan's devils mock the Word of God and interrupt scripture. Could Browne single-handedly get so many people to fall for such a Satanic mockery? These people are responding to the powers of darkness. Their attitudes took a bad change toward preaching about God, sin, morality, growing in grace, and the Church.

$IGN$ AND WONDER$? One wonders why this group bothers to use the Bible at all. The focus is reduced to "will it sell?" Jesus Christ's command to "Go ye into all the world" becomes "Come to our meetings!" A "new zeal for evangelism" is a zeal to draw other people into the same religious aberrations. The idea of evangelizing people is to zap them.34 Their substitute is a cheap "go-with-the-flow" message.

Howard-Browne blusters how at the age of twelve, "The voice said these words to me...Your mom will not be home today."35 Are Browne’s experiences that of some super-saint or one involved with clairvoyance? People are encouraged to let go of their doctrine and clear their minds of any biblical objections. He says this is "The only way you're going to understand what God is doing is with your heart."36 (Check your brain at the door!) Beloved, God warns that your heart is deceitful and desperately wicked (Jer. 17:9)! The Bereans used their minds, searching the Scriptures even to check out the true preachers of integrity, the Apostles! Then God commended them (Acts. 17:11; 1 Thes. 5:21). Without the principles of the Word of God, how are we to see through the deceptions, the complex issues, the false Jesus, the false gospel, and the false Spirit? (2 Cor. 11:4)

In a movement so theologically poverty-stricken, real preaching is very rare! Preaching is reduced to silly shallowness, subjectivism, and spiritual hype. Scriptures are jerked out of context to legitimize the experience (smart devil)! Charisma magazine admits that the pulpit becomes irrelevant. The whole blasphemous circus makes "the word of God of none effect" (Mark 7:13).37 A sign of demonic activity is demonstrated by the irreverence, ignorance, intimidation, brainwashing techniques, fundraising games, and overall hypocrisy. This kind of Charismatic phenomena departed from the Headship of Christ, the authority of Scripture, the mission of Bible evangelism and Bible education. Now it's all a joke to them!

Some pastors recognize the sham but they never rebuke the sin. Such cowardly shepherds pet the wolves who eat the lambs!


This so-called revival does not come through preaching the Gospel, but through laughter. It spreads through testimonies, audio tapes, and the laying-on-of-hands rather than in response to the preaching of the Word of God. The biblical Apostles clearly spoke God's Word calling for repentance from sin; while the laughter phenomena has very little talk of holiness. True revivals of the past were conducted in an atmosphere of great reverence, a holy awe for God, and a deep conviction of sin! There was never irreverence, hilarity, lack of control, or giddy "partying" and "fun."38 A woman "went to church and lit a candle to Mary, and as she did, she burst out in holy laughter."39 This whole thing is the three dollar bill for the fruit of the Spirit! Revival is biblically associated with weeping and a spirit of longing before the Lord. Loud out of control laughter is often connected to scorn and arrogance; not reverence (Luke 6:25-26; Jam. 4:8-10; Ec. 2:1; Rom. 13:12-14; Gal. 5:19-26). Such "revelries" are to be expected from the last days self-seeking pleasure-lovers (2 Tim. 3:1-5).

Rodney Howard-Browne's meetings are characterized by the self-indulgent works of the flesh. The circus atmosphere is best described by, "Who Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?"40

The satanic "happy trips" vary from: the abandonment of all reason, being stuck to the floor, crawling under chairs, giggling fits, full-blown guffawing, stamping feet, screaming, banging heads on walls, raving, uncontrollable bedlam, yelling, prostration, twitching, shrieking, irrational laughter, howling, flapping the hands, jungle noises, emotional pandemonium, shivers, tingles, the "slaying-in-the-spirit," screaming, "vomiting-in-the-spirit," belly laughs, rolling on the floor, spasms of laughter, shallow elation, being struck dumb, incoherence, minds blanking out, an inability to stop, shouting, intoxicating sensations, ranting, unintelligible babblings, ecstatic trances, hands waving, the laying-on-of-hands, incessant laughter, women flopping on the floor, hooting, speaking in tongues, weakness, delirium, hysteria, temporary paralysis, barking as dogs, staggering as drunks, cackling as chickens, falling, muteness, immobility, revelations, muttering, strong impulses to do the irrational, ripping off clothes, gibbering, shaking as palsy, dancing, groaning, mumbling incoherently, the inability to drive home, and utter chaos!

This kind of laughter is reported in lunatic asylums.41 Such roaring and growling were common in the Babylonian religious festivals, orgies of drunkenness, immorality, and judgment (Jer. 51:37-40). The counterfeit for the gospel is bizarre, foolish, and devilish! Engaging another spirit for worship and devotion is idolatry.

The phenomena of the meetings finds a parallel in paganism, Eastern religions, and in the occult. Following the meetings people have reported the problems of demonic oppression, suicidal feelings, loss of faith, exhaustion, and emotional disruptions.42 The mysticism is as the contacting of spiritual powers, the visualization, the inner-healing techniques, meditation, ecstatic prayer and trance conditions leading people into demonic experiences?43

Christians have found that when these manifestations are rebuked they stopped.44 Put on your spiritual armor and fight back!


Are Christians given a "brand-new" anointing from God? We are already anointed! Check it out! The Old Testament anointing has already been fulfilled by Jesus Christ, the Anointed One! Then Jesus anointed us by sending the Holy Spirit to abide in us. "These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you..." (1 John 2:26-27).


First-time visitors to the laughter excesses are generally distant and skeptical. Discerning Christians will recognize an inner-witness to alarm them that this is not of God! The uneasiness and skepticism ought to be a sufficient warning to leave! Given time the subconscious barriers can break down. "Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity" (2 Tim. 2:19b). Get out!

The spiritual man judges all things (1 Cor. 2:15). Conscious self-control of the mind and body is a genuine mark of God's Spirit (1 Cor. 14:23,40; Gal. 5:22-25; 2 Pet. 1:5-7). Die to self-desire, and test the spirits objectively by scriptural TRUTH! Know the Scriptures! Nothing of God will contradict Scripture. The whole idea of God contradicting God makes Him a LIAR! Watch out! Satan is the LIAR (John 8:44)! Our only defense is to not accept anything which cannot be validated in God's Word (John 17:17) and by the Spirit of TRUTH (John 4:23).

All Third-Wave, Word-of-Faith, Signs and Wonders, and "Holy" Laugher Charismatics should pray this prayer! "Lord Jesus, I have been tricked by false teachers. I repent! Forgive me for following false doctrines and false shepherds. Restore the years the cultic locusts have eaten."

Part 2 of 3 article submitted by Charle Carle

Friday, March 16, 2007

Friday Funnies

The Seven Ten Cap

A woman walks into a mechanic shop and asks the clerk for a 710 cap.

The clerk is surprised and goes to the warehouse clerk and asks him about a 710 cap.

He doesn’t know either so he calls a mechanic over and asks him about a 710 cap, but nobody has heard of a 710 cap.

The woman insists and says it is a part that goes on her motor and that it had mysteriously disappeared. She needed to find a new 710 cap.

Considering nobody knew anything about a 710 cap, the clerk asked the woman if she could draw this 710 cap.

The woman, who incidentally had taken some drawing classes, didn’t have a problem with this, being she remembered what the 710 cap looked like. She took a piece of paper and a pencil and drew a circle about 8 cm in diameter and wrote in the center the number 710.

Tuesday, March 13, 2007

The Bible Makes Baptist

Christmas Evans Christmas Evans (1766-1838) was a Welsh Baptist preacher who was referred to as the "Bunyan of Wales."

How Christmas Evans Became A
Christmas Evans, a Welsh Baptist preacher, was born on Christmas day in 1766. He preached fervently and effectually to the Welsh people from about 1787 his death in July 1838. He gives the following account of how he became a Baptist.
"A person of the name of Amos had left the (Presbyterian) church at Liwynrhyodwn, and had been baptized at Aberduar. He came to see me, and I began to assail the Anabaptist heresy, as I had been accustomed to consider it. But Amos soon silenced me. I attributed my defeat to my ignorance of the New Testament, and therefore began to read from the beginning of Matthew, to prepare myself for the next interview. Having read the New Testament through, I found not a single verse in favor of Paedobaptism (i.e. baptizing infants). I met frequently with passages in the Old and New Testaments referring to the circumcision and naming of children, their bringing up in the 'nurture and admonition of the Lord,' etc. but with none making any mention of their baptism; while about forty passages seemed to me to testify clearly for baptism on a profession of faith. These scriptures spoke to my conscience and convinced me of the necessity of personal obedience to the baptism which Christ had ordained. After a little struggle between the flesh and spirit, obedience and disobedience, I applied to the Baptist church at Aberduar. I was cordially received."
This took place in the summer of 1787, four years after his conversion. At age twenty, he was baptized in the river Duar by Timothy Thomas.

Article from Bro. Ben and LSB site..

Monday, March 12, 2007

Laughing Charismatics ... pt. 1


With real concern for The Third Wave,

Word-of-Faith, Signs and Wonders,


What's going on in there?

Satan's goal is for deception, the leaven of apostasy, and the destruction of God's work!

Is this laughter movement of God, or are the devils laughing the hardest of all?

Jesus is the TRUTH personified (John 14:6); the Devil is the LIE personified. (John 8:44).

Are you following the TRUTH or the LIE?

"Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven...the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees" (Mat. 16:6,12). "Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?" (1 Cor. 5:6). Should we identify with the Charismatic and Ecumenical movements? Are the great changes sweeping through churches in the twentieth century in keeping with God's Word?

The honest Charismatic Christians believe the sign-gifts are valid for today and have true motives and efforts to follow Scripture. These ones are trying to be faithful to God in prayer, bringing God praise, evangelism, a stand for justification by grace through faith, and some have an expository pulpit message. Charismatic pastors include those who are very concerned about apostasy and the bizarre phenomenas appearing in the churches.

Other Charismatics openly follow experiences that oppose Scripture. Once this standard is adopted in preference to the Word of God, the depraved imaginations of man or devil arise to the occasion. LYING leaders are deplorable anywhere! They include the cheap politicians and the corrupt preachers.


The television audience, flicking past the Soaps and the Muppets, often pause at the Trinity Broadcasting Network to wonder at the incredible display of shallowness, extravagance, and New Age brand of Christianity. Long-haired male role-models adorn the "glory" of the woman, ignorant about the worldwide standard of manliness, "nature," or their "shame" (1 Cor. 11:1-19). Jan Crouch replaced Tammy Faye as the Queen-of-the-painted-ladies and the fairy-god-mother of religious fantasy. What in the world did TBN supporters learn out of the whole PTL mess? What Christian trying to witness has not been mocked in the wake of the Bakker and Swaggart scandals! The founder of TBN, Paul Crouch boasts, "I am a little god! Critics be gone!"1

The Apostle Peter warned about religious leaders who are lustful and are experts in greed. They capture converts and exploit the weak (2 Pet. 2:14-19). In contrast to TBN’s foolishness, the cults on television deceptively look like true wholesome New Testament Christianity! It is easy to see how people get confused.

Kenneth Hagin, is known as the father of the Word-Faith movement. He actually plagiarized E.W. Kenyon "whose life and ministry were enormously impacted by such cults as Science of the Mind, the Unity School of Christianity, Christian Science, and New Thought metaphysics."2 Kenyon was an occultist!3

Avanzini, Capps, Cerullo, Cho, Copeland, Crouch, Hickey, Howard-Browne, Price, Savelle, and Tilton all follow these same doctrines of devils (1 Tim. 4:1). Now Kenneth Copeland whines, "I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is...The biggest one in the whole Bible is God."4

Rodney Howard-Browne believes Jesus left His deity in Heaven. What a serious error! Jesus charged the Jews, "if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins...Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:24,58).5

Marilyn Hickey tells others to just create what you need, speaking it into being, "Speak to your billfold. Say, 'You big, thick billfold full of money...You're just jammed full of money"6 The wealthiest Word-Faith preachers have the biggest mailing lists. Confession works in one direction, from the suckers in the audience to the Faith preacher.



John Wimber of the Vineyard Christian Fellowship, holds "Signs and Wonders Seminars" throughout the world, claiming healing is promised in the atonement. A sign of the movement's confusion is evident. Wimber is sick with cancer!

Miracles do not prove God's favor. In Deuteronomy 13:1-5, God "proveth" or tests the love of His people by seeing if they will go after a "prophet" who has "a sign or a wonder" (vs. 3,1). God wants His own to "fear" Him enough to "put the evil away from the midst of thee" (vs. 4-5). The "prophet or a dreamer of dreams" will lead people to the a “little g" god (vs. 1-2)! Kenneth Copeland's blasphemes, "You don't have a god in you, you are one!"7 Under the Law, God commanded the ultimate censuring of such heretics for the sake of purity – death! (vs. 5). God's counsel, to either choose between false teachers who approach His people or else obedience to His Word, is still strong today. God measures the love that people claim. The barometer is if you really love Him, then you will obey Him (John 14:21)!

In the "last days...evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived" (2 Tim. 3:1,13). The Lord Jesus warned that "many" prophets doing these wonders in His name will be damned to hell (Mat. 7:21-23)! You wouldn't want to be identified with evil, would you? "An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas" (Mat. 12:39). The point is that the resurrection of the Son of God ought to be sufficient to bring joy into your life! Rodney Howard-Browne admits to elevating an experience with the devil above the TRUTH, "But I'd rather be in a church where the devil and the flesh are manifesting than in a church where nothing is happening because people are too afraid to manifest anything."8

Charismatics prophesy a worldwide revival for the end times. They are wrong! Wide-spread turning to Christ is not predicted until the tribulation preaching of the 144,000! Scripture predicts for this period a great number of false teachers, false prophets, LYING signs and wonders, and a great falling away from the TRUTH to follow seducing spirits! Prophecy points to an ever-increasing worldwide apostasy with many false prophets deceiving many, not a revival (Mat. 24:3-5, 11)! "False prophets...shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect" (Mat. 24:24)! "Satan" is working toward "all power and signs and lying wonders" (2 Thes. 2:7-9)! He is the master of "great wonders," and "miracles" (Rev. 13:13-14)! Christian, be wary of the demonic deception of the "Signs and Wonders" movement of the last days.

The New Age Religion also received the signs and wonders by the laying on of hands! Humanity is headed for a one-world religion that is open to deception in the name of Jesus. It’s as if the cults use the name “Jesus” as their password for authenticity! The New Age produces unity with diversity and it lacks judgment.9 Some Charismatics are even guilty of presenting the Holy Spirit as a spirit guide.10 Incredible! Satan cleverly turns multitudes to the false teachers while making a mockery of Christianity! Many who follow a feel-good religion are not ready to hear the hard sayings of Christ (John 6:60). The only disciples that the Lord Jesus commends will "continue" in the Word of TRUTH (John 8:31-32)! Test all experiences by Scripture and follow the Lord!


We know Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White, and the Watchtower are false prophets. How about the Charismatics who declare, "Thus saith the Lord..." and "God's message for you is..."? Jesus gave a powerful warning. Do not ignore it! "Beware of false prophets ... Ye shall know them by their fruits" (Mat. 7:15,16). The "fruit" of a false prophet is a false prophecy!

By definition, a false prophet is described in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. Explanations in parenthesis are mine. "But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word (just one) in my name (words like "The Lord told me..." or “I just sense in my spirit”), which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. (Censuring false prophets protects people from deep hurt and loss of confidence in God's Word. Do we read: "Let that prophet readjust his figures"? "Forget the past"? "Give him a second chance"? "We all make mistakes"? "He may be just 'kind-of-a-prophet'"? "Wait and see what harm was done first"? No!) And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? (That is a good question!) When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, (False charismatic prophesy is common! God spoke through the prophets when? In times PAST! That’s history! Hebrews 1:1), but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: (Stick with the “more sure Word of prophecy” which is Scripture! 2 Peter 1:19) thou shalt not be afraid of him." (Don't let the scare tactics rattle you. Mature Christians look for Jesus to come, but do not set dates or follow those who do!)

Anyone who goes after false prophets after all the warnings from God is very, very foolish! The Charismatic prophets miserably fail the test of a true prophet. They claim to be 10 to 65% accurate! C. Peter Wagner said in Indianapolis, "Many of your churches also are now becoming involved in prophetic movement. And I'm talking about serious prophecy; I'm talking about Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah kind of prophecy, where God speaks to the churches."11 Such boasting is common among false prophets. The Watchtower said a group was to speak as a " was done toward Ezekiel," known as "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses"12 Definitely wrong! TRUE prophets are zealous against sin and error (Jer. 14:14; 23:16-32; 27:15; Zech. 13:2-5)!

Rodney Howard-Browne predicted an outpouring of the Spirit in which, "Eyeballs will form, legs and arms will grow out..." He said God will very soon begin to miraculously transport people from place to place. He has the same source of information as Benny Hinn who said, Adam, "with one thought he would be on the moon."13 Astral projection is of the occult, connected with voodoo and the black arts.14

Charismatic leaders LIED about Bob Jones's (not the godly Bob Jones of Bob Jones University) prophetic dating of a drought. Paul Cain, "the most anointed prophet that's in the world today," gushingly predicted, "So that that glorious Church might be revealed in the last days because the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-man!" Maturity? It's just more Corinthian carnality and heresy (1 Cor. 3:3)! Paul Cain messed up on the timing of an earthquake; but Wimber claimed it came true!15 Don't put up with "ignorant" people who think they are prophets and care less for decency and order (1 Cor. 14:37-40)!


John Hinkle heard a voice saying that on June 9, 1994, "I will rip all evil from the earth" etc. Lacking common sense and a respect for biblical TRUTH, the Trinity Broadcasting Network was sucked in and became the vehicle for the LYING spirit!16 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1)!

Gullible crowds embraced Peter Popoff as he claimed God spoke directly to him while he really had his wife speaking to him by an electronic ear device. Like Lea and Popoff, Robert Tilton had to be exposed by the secular world before this religious movement would censure him. Where is this "spirit of discernment"?

Under “revelation knowledge,” Benny Hinn claimed each Person of the Trinity is triune so "there's nine of them" and "Jesus was born again!"17 Study the Bible and sit under the preaching of a faithful man of God so you won't get sucked into these extra-biblical teachings!

James Ryle, a Wimber associate, said, "The Lord spoke to me and said, 'What you saw in the Beatles--the gifting and sound that they had--was from Me.'"18 Hold the applause; the Beatles were completely antichrist! (Send for a Beatles paper). Ryle's vision from a god was nothing more than a Satanic delusion.

Oral Robert's god held him hostage until people gave him more money! He also made a mistake on the cost of this faith-healer's hospital. Clearly, his god does not know the future! Rodney Howard-Browne does, so he says! He reports occurrences of knowing "what's going to happen one year, two years, three years in the future."19 Folks, God does not give us omniscience. The fortune-teller techniques open up all kinds of delusion. John Wimber said Christ could come at any time; but soon afterwards said little unborn children would live to see the coming of the Lord.20 – That’s like, just blab whatever sounds good at the time!


Dr. Jack Deere, is one of the top theological leaders of the Vineyard Power Evangelism movement along with C. Peter Wagner. He says that the gospel is not about Jesus Christ who died for our sins and was buried and raised on the third day. When probed at length for an answer to explain the gospel, he was asked, "Could you perhaps tell me informally what you believe to be the gospel?" All Deere could say was, "I'm not sure."21

The word "power" tickles the ears of this crowd; so they claim to have "power evangelism!" Larry Lea, "The Apostle of Prayer" for this century, took authority over San Francisco to drive out all of the homosexuals! (What an embarrassment as he bellowed across the airwaves daily about his spiritual warfare!) Get this; the homosexuals are still there, laughing at Christians! The Charismatic world applauded Lea, a self-condemned LIAR. It took secular television to pull back his fleece! "Power Evangelism" is nothing more than a powerful sound-system -- blasting to the sheep and goats lost in their little wilderness of confusion!

These pip-squeaks think they bind the devil while Michael, God's POWERFUL angel had to say, "The Lord rebuke thee." John Wimber personally comes against the devil as he commands the Holy Spirit to help and Satan to leave!22


Frederick Price does not allow sickness in his home so he says; but his wife was treated for cancer!23 Charles and Francis Hunter while holding a healing crusade, sent Francis to the doctor because of pink eye.24

Jamie Buckingham, editor-at-large for the Charismatic Movement's most prominent magazine, Charisma, was pronounced healed of cancer by his wife, Oral Roberts and other false prophets. Buckingham claimed, the still small voice of God told him he would live to be a hundred. He died of cancer in 1992. Religious people need to think! This editor with such great responsibility for the reports and articles to the Charismatic world listened to a voice but it was not God's!25

William Branham, of the Oneness-Pentecostal cult, is one of the great fathers of the modern healing movement. He pronounced great numbers healed who died of the same problems shortly following their “healing” experience.26 Branham denounced the trinity as coming directly from the devil; yet Hagin, Copeland, and Hinn speak highly of the cult leader!27

Various cults testify of healings and blessings flowing from their ministries. Even when healings are real, that is still no proof that they came from God (Deut. 13:1-5; Mat. 7:21-23).

To Be Continued ....

Article Submitted by Charlie Carlie.

Friday, March 9, 2007

Friday Funnies

This picture was taken by a KTBS helicopter flying over Lake Conroe about 50 miles north of Houston !
That has to be a HUGE gator to have a whole deer in its mouth!

Are you ready to go skiing on Lake Conroe?!

If you ski at the west end of the lake -- try not to fall.

Have a good day, Bro. Jeff

Wednesday, March 7, 2007

Mormonism's Living Prophets ... pt 2

and their mysteries.

continue from Friday March 2,

Doc &Cov. 110:10, 16.
10 And the fame of this house shall spread to foreign lands; and this is the beginning of the blessing which shall be poured out upon the heads of my people. Even so. Amen.
16 Therefore, the keys of this dispensation are committed into your hands; and by this ye may know that the great and dreadful day of the Lord is near, even at the doors.
April 3, 1836. This Kirtland, Ohio temple is not to be confused with the LDS temple in Columbus. We hear about prayer, "I testify that I have prayed about the Book of Mormon, God spoke to me, so I feel and I know. . ." Why should any LDS prayer be more reliable than Joseph Smith's prayers? Recording a vision, the preface tells how the prophet prayed in the temple. Fame? Whoever heard of it? The big news is their apostates own it. Jesus has not come. And after 170 years, when was that near and dreadful day of the Lord?

Doctrine and Covenants 124:83

83 If he will do my will let him not take his family unto the eastern lands, even unto Kirtland; nevertheless, I, the Lord, will build up Kirtland, but I the Lord, have a scourge prepared for the inhabitants thereof.
Jan. 19, 1841. Certain ones were not to go there. How was Kirtland built up when so few returned? The Community of Christ owns the temple. So doesn't that mean that it functions in apostasy? Here again, Joseph Smith in the D&C has such hatred and countless threats for non-Mormon people!

D&C 115:7-8, 11-12, 17
7 Let the city, Far West, be a holy and consecrated land unto me; and it shall be called most holy, for the ground upon which thou standest is holy.
8 Therefore, I command you to build a house unto me, for the gathering together of my saints, that they may worship me.
11 And in one year from this day let them re-commence laying the foundation of my house.
12 Thus let them from that time forth labor diligently until it shall be finished, from the corner stone thereof unto the top thereof, until there shall not anything remain that is not finished.
17 And again, verily I say unto you, it is my will that the city Far West should be built up speedily by the gathering of the saints;
Dated as April 26, 1838. Isn't exaltation thought to be gained in the LDS by obeying commands? The missing temple commanded to be built at Far West is not to be confused with the one built in St. Louis. Why didn't this god know the future? There was only an elaborate ceremony to lay the corner stone. (A Comprehensive History of the Church, B.H. Roberts, p.440). Yet it led to no obedience! No diligence! Not finished! No temple! Not speedily! Never stayed! And they abandoned the most holy ground! All of the LDS history and all of Joseph's words are to be compared to these according to the D&C (1:14; 1:37-38; 3:3; 20:7-9; 42:39; 68:2-4; 132:8,12-14; and 1 Nephi 3:7). In contrast, the God of the Bible never ever fails!

Doc. & Cov. 124:31-36
31 But I command you, all ye my saints, to build a house unto me; and I grant unto you a sufficient time to build a house unto me; and during this time your baptisms shall be acceptable unto me.
32 But behold, at the end of this appointment your baptisms for the dead shall not be acceptable unto me; and if you do not these things at the end of the appointment ye shall be rejected as a church, with your dead, saith the Lord your God.
33 For verily I say unto you, that after you have had sufficient time to build a house to me, wherein the ordinance of baptizing for the dead belongeth, and for which the same was instituted from before the foundation of the world, your baptisms for the dead cannot be acceptable unto me;
34 For therein are the keys of the holy priesthood ordained, that you may receive honor and glory.
35 And after this time, your baptisms for the dead, by those who are scattered abroad, are not acceptable unto me, saith the Lord.
36 For it is ordained that in Zion, and her stakes, and in Jerusalem, those places which I have appointed for refuge, shall be the places for your baptisms for your dead.
1841 prophetic ultimatum about Nauvoo. Joseph Smith was shot in 1844 as it was not finished. It was sold, burned, and hit by a storm. Then it was gone until the 21st century. The first paragraph of the introduction in the Book of Mormon bears witness that it has "the fulness of the everlasting gospel," yet baptism for the dead is not in it. Here in the D&C, the LDS deity claims that the LDS baptisms are not acceptable and the church has to be rejected (vs. 32).

Dear reader, please be gentle with the precious LDS people. The following applies to every church, ward, cathedral, Kingdom Hall, lodge, and TV or radio program. How important is "Thus saith the Lord" to you? We must choose between God and religion.

God tells us to expose the false and not to join it. (2 Sam. 12:7; Jer. 28:15; Mat. 3:7; chapter 23 has strong words from Jesus; John 8:32 & 36; Acts 20:28-32; Rom. 16:17-19; 1 Cor. 5:9-13; 2 Cor. 6:14-7:1; Gal. 1:6-9; Eph. 5:10-13; 1 Thes. 5:21; 2 Thess.2:1-3; 3:6-15; 1 Tim. 1:18-20; 6:3-5, 11; 2 Timothy 2:15-19; 3:5-10, 16; 4:10; Titus 1:9-16; 3:10-11; 1 Pet. 4:4; 1 John 4:1; 2 John 6-11; Jude 3; Rev. 2:14-17; 18:4).
"Is there more than one God? . . . No." (Book of Mormon, Alma 11:28-35. Also D&C 20:17,19,28; 39:1). Joseph Smith was searching for the number of Gods (see D&C 121:28). And he kept changing his cut-and-paste doctrines and finally concluded, "Here, then, is eternal life to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you" (History of the Church, Vol. 6, pp. 305-06). That is simply to fall for the serpent's lie (Gen. 3:1-5; Isaiah 14:12-15; Ez. 28:1-10). God firmly warns us that all other gods will perish! (Jer. 10:10-11)
What does President Hinckley know? Asked if God was once a man, he said, "I don't know that we teach it. I don't know that we emphasize it . . . I understand the philosophical background behind it, but I don't know a lot about it, and I don't think others know a lot about it" (Time Magazine, 8-4-97, p.56). Isn't to know the character of God the first principle of the LDS Gospel? Did he fear taking a stand? Yet he wrote Standing for Something, including a chapter on honesty. Tracking more of his false statements in public, it does not match up. God warns about the lake of fire for various kinds of evil people but then includes "liars" (Rev. 21:8). We need Jesus Christ for eternal life, "In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace" (Eph. 1:7). Jesus saves.
Question: What are the missing cities from A to Z? - Atlantis to Zarahemla, Iowa (D&C 125). The D&C has many deep prophetic problems. Don't let the Civil War prophecy confuse you in chapter 87. Joseph Smith knew nothing that was not totally obvious to Americans in Dec. 1832, and his prediction includes some obvious errors. Friends may insist that his prophecies will come true but he set many deadlines. If you would like more evidence, I can email it.

Dear friend, this is much more important to help people! Those who step away from error can be hurt. It's much like Israel leaving Egypt, then to seemingly wander in a wilderness for years, it gets painful and lonely. Israel finally made it to their promised land - and so can you! Read what God says you can "know", how eternal life is still available to you! "And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life: and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God" (1 John 5:11-13).

article submitted by Charlie Carle